DISQUS

thombow · 5 months ago

so where is divine will in this awareness that is everything and no thing? is there any?

nicholaspowiull · 4 months ago

The idea of "divine will" derives from thinking that one has "personal will". In order for something to will over something else, it would have to be separate from that thing it is willing. Since there is only one thing here (which can be called the divine, just as easy as awareness; it really is nameless) then that one thing is everything and because that one thing is everywhere, it is not in one location more than another location. It is nowhere specific. It is equally everything. There is nothing outside of it. In order for a will to be place upon something else, it would have to be outside everything, doing the everything or willing it.

thombow · 4 months ago

but that one thing (as everything) is doing 'everyone' and 'everything.' every action. doesn't that imply a will of some sort? there's certainly an intelligence here.

you know the hindus have those yugas. great epochs of time where humanity moves through 4 different stages. supposedly we're in the last one, the kali yuga where we are totally immersed in materialism and corruption and have little spiritual connection to god. all this info is said to have come from great sages. all imagination? the mind's attempt to make sense of this pointless dream, yes?

this natural simple awareness that 'you' are (and 'we' are too except our identification with mind) is one of absolute mystery and ignorance, yes? so this consciousness/Self/god/being is totally clueless about itself? it's all on autopilot?

nicholaspowiull · 4 months ago

In the last article comment section, what arose is telling you that the one is the only doer, but as was stated; it was only for the mind to come to terms with what was being said about why perfection is. Yet there really is no doer anywhere. This the mind can't understand because it thinks of itself as a self with choice and it is doing. There is no doer, but everything still get done by no-body, no-one, or nothing. If one could understand that paradox by letting it be as it is, then no understanding is necessary. The mind will seek to understand until it sees that understanding always ends in failure.

When one sees that attaining knowledge and understanding is not working, then one falls into the unknown; it is only here that one knows what they need to know and when they need to know it. Some people call this intuition, instincts, or letting go to let God; but whatever it is, it is only found in not knowing. Knowledge is power indeed, since knowledge has the power to remove one from knowing what is important.

Yes this is all on autopilot and yes the one can't understand itself because there is nobody, no-one, or nothing there to understand it. It is not a self that is trying to figure anything out. It doesn't move based on understand or knowledge. It moves because that is its nature to move. It doesn't question itself because there is nobody or thing there with questions and it doesn't answer itself because there is nobody or thing there with answers.

free2flycari · 4 months ago

I like this; this is really good. This would be an especially good read for people whom fear death (pretty much everyone), or have a negative view of death.

nicholaspowiull · 4 months ago

Yes, the stem of all fears could be said to be in the fear of death itself. The only way the fear in death could be possible was if there had a belief in a separate self. The pointing of death here, doesn't help comfort everyone. In fact, it as turned some people away. Some people have emailed me saying how they don't agree with the pointing of death that arises here. I been pointing this to others who point, like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2SGzI4e5OA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsgXMRB4TeQ

thombow · 4 months ago

"then one falls into the unknown; it is only here that one knows what they need to know and when they need to know it."

does that mean there's a whole lot more to know that you don't know ? does it go to an infinite depth? (like you're a wave that has realized you're the ocean but that ocean is very,very deep) .some say it does. others say to just know you are awareness and all that appears to you is you is IT and that's ALL. seems like different 'teachers' are on different levels. of course many are not really awake at all, some have just had glimpses, the halfway up the mountain thing. some are more identified with the absolute and see the relative as unreal.

and "one knows what they need to know" still implies a separation. is that because of being a body/mind in this dreamworld even after realizing?

yeah, non duality is about as popular as a turd in the swimming pool. most everyone wants a better me not the end of it.

alan watts was a good philosopher but not awake. never claimed to be. i like his clips. and byron katie, in the money making business end of this stuff. something ugly in selling what can't be bought. where's the love in that? like parents charging their kids for room and board.

love your blog. thanks for being here!

nicholaspowiull · 4 months ago

Living as oneness, life moves in a different way. It's difficult to understand for the mind because it doesn't move on logic or reasons. Just like intuition, you don't know why or how you knew what you knew but you knew exactly what to do and when to do it, in fact the mind or the you was not even involved. This article explains that in detail: http://consciousflex.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-t... Life is lived as synchronicities and coincidences; everything just seems to come together naturally without effort.

There is nothing to know because there is nobody to know it. The mind is the only thing here (also known as continuous thinking) that thinks it can hold knowledge about what this is. There is nobody here to know, because what is seen is that even if something could be known about whatever this is, it is always a paradox and contradiction. How do you understand a paradox? What can be known about a paradox? The most natural way to deal with a paradox is to just except that whatever this is that way. The mind deals with a paradox by choosing one or the other because that is what the mind does. Therefore, there is NOT "a whole lot more to know" because from here, there is nothing to know. Perhaps it is of infinite depth, but whatever this is, it's up to intuition (whatever that is or whatever label you like to use), not to you.

Yes, it seems the mind is stuck in the 'relative' and knows nothing of the 'absolute', so when the 'absolute' is seen (which awareness is one word to point to the 'absolute') then it seems that one gets 'tapped' there and dismisses the 'relative'. It doesn't have to be a process, but here, that was the case. Next, it is seen that the absolute and the relative are only one event, one movement, one thing, not two. They are both here right now because there is no both of them at all, there is only one. And some would say I am speaking of the 'absolute' by saying that, but what is seen here is that there is no separation in them. Non-duality can be said to be the realization that nothing is separate, so to separate anything into two, is leaning more to relative.

Oneness playing the character Alan Watts, oneness playing the character Byron Katie. It's all just oneness, I don't have a focus about who is awake and who is not (because there are no who's that can be awake, it's all one) or what oneness does through itself or to itself. There is no conflict, judgment, separation, or anything of the sort from here, those things can arise but they arise for no-one and therefore fall away just as quickly as they came.

I don't really have a care in the world to define enlightenment (or non-duality) in a set-in-stone sense because I don't know what it is and it doesn't matter because I am only going by my expereince here and in the end that is all that matters. Who really cares what anybody else has to say about it? There is nobody here to be enlightened anyhow. Just go with what resonates with you, move in the way that you feel moved to move, listen to your expereince; the rest is for the birds.

thombow · 4 months ago

i've been listening to the podcasts and reading the comments at gilbert's urban guru cafe since it started. now he seems to have some real rigid views on 'gurus' who give out alot of concepts and play that whole game. eckhart tolle, gangaji, adyashanti etc. so my question is if 'someone' is really living as one would such judgement be there? how could there be any judgement from the all?

setting aside the absolute view, is it possibly for 'people' to be partially awake?

nicholaspowiull · 4 months ago

Anybody who claims to be a guru or enlightened is likely not, because what is seen is that nobody is here to be such a claim. Also if you see judgment, that is just oneness judging, yet oneness that realizes itself has no reason to judge anything. Judgment may arise, but it is seen to arise for nobody so it falls away just as quickly as it arises. If a judgment is placed and gone unnoticed, perhaps consciousness is not as aware as it suggests.

This does tend to happen for many who are in the process of 'awakening' (not always but usually) because the mind will come back in and claim what was seen. It is very subtle and not seen by the one doing it, but is very much seen by others around them. It is known as shadow boxing. The ego represses something and starts judging everyone else for that which it is repressing. Whatever is being repressed is seen in others and not yourself. More explained about this and the process that happened here with that in the 'awakening process' in this article (explained under the Level of Joy): http://consciousflex.blogspot.com/2009/04/map-t...

thombow · 4 months ago

he's quite clear that in saying there's no one enlightened. maybe it is just judgement that arises and falls away but it's been going on for years. i just find it curious.

recent qotes by him;
"Gurus that will keep the seeker bound into endless conceptual bondage to a future time of deliverance are also very common."
" Those who are genuinely speaking about this direct ‘message’ are not popular with the masses. If a guru is popular, you can be sure he is peddling bullshit by the barrow load."

i'm working my way through your articles. great stuff!

nicholaspowiull · 4 months ago

Yeah, it's not for me to judge. I have no reason to judge others from here because it's only judging myself, that is how it moves from here. Perhaps it is different in others expereince but I can only go with my expereince. From here I can see that all perspective and pointers have their place and with as diverse as people are (or oneness having infinite qualities), I think it is great to have a diverse amount of pointers to match the diverse qualities. I don't see that as a mistake.

Like I said, it is all about what resonates. If the comments made by Gilbert resonates then follow your heart, if not then still you are following your heart.

suzannefoxton · 4 months ago

Totally cool pointers Dude.

suzannefoxton · 4 months ago

Hey Nicholas, is all well? You've been quiet recently.

nicholaspowiull · 3 months ago

Yes, all is well. Just a detour in the story :)

jackie1966 · 3 months ago

All of your articles are very helpful and If all you had was sight, you wouldn't fear anything because you would know that no image, no matter how scary, could harm you because it's just an appearance coming at an unmoving, unchanging, unharmed, nondestructible, and always-present awareness.

nicholaspowiull · 3 months ago

I take no credit, but delighted to help :)